The One About Closing the Trades Skills Gap with Dan Clapper : Episode 19
Dan Clapper of Interplay Learning joins The Blue Collar Trades Show to break down one of the most misunderstood ideas in the trades the gap between experience and competency. A tech with ten years on the job isn’t automatically better than one with two; what separates them is training, consistency, and the right learning modality. Dan walks through his own path from early exposure to the trades into his work helping businesses close skill gaps with smarter, data-driven training.
This conversation gets into why career development is the real driver of retention, how to start with data to find where your team actually needs help, and why pairing hard skills with soft skills is what keeps good techs from walking out the door. Dan also covers what training actually costs versus what it returns, how technicians grow into managers and leaders, and where VR is starting to reshape hands-on training.
In This Episode:
- Dan’s journey from early exposure to the trades into his role at Interplay Learning
- Why career development through training is essential for retention and growth
- How businesses should start with data to identify skill gaps before building a program
- The case for focusing on core knowledge and foundational skills first
- The real difference between experience and competency in HVAC
- The value of learning modality and what training actually costs versus returns
- The transition from technician to manager and leader
- The role of feedback, consistency, and how VR is shaping the future of training
Chapters:
- 00:00 — Challenges and Solutions in Training and Retention
- 27:46 — Experience vs. Competency
- 33:12 — The Impact of Training on Technicians and Staff
- 39:02 — The Value of Training and Learning Modality
- 45:28 — Transition from Technician to Manager and Leader
- 51:10 — Passion for Trades and HVAC
- 56:24 — Favorite Tools and Hobbies
- 01:02:37 — Use of VR in Training and Future Plans
Keywords: HVAC training, technician retention, experience vs competency, skilled trades development, VR training, learning modality
Connect With Dan Clapper:
Interplay Learning: https://www.interplaylearning.com
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danclapper/
Connect With Us:
https://www.thebluecollarrecruiter.com
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